Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/04/2003 01:10 PM House RES

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HB 86-INJUNCTIONS AGAINST PERMITTED PROJECTS                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FATE  announced that  the next order  of business  would be                                                               
SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE  FOR HOUSE  BILL NO. 86,  "An Act  relating to                                                               
permits issued by  the state; and amending Rules 65,  79, and 82,                                                               
Alaska Rules of Civil Procedure."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2185                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FATE, sponsor,  asked that  his staff  person present  the                                                               
sponsor substitute.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MASEK moved  to adopt SSHB 86.   [No objection was                                                               
stated.]                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2164                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JIM  POUND,  Staff  to Representative  Hugh  Fate,  Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  explained  that  SSHB  86  was  a  rewrite  of  the                                                               
original  bill in  order  to pass  "constitutional  muster."   It                                                               
relates to asking  for and receiving injunctions  that delay work                                                               
on already  permitted projects.   Under current law,  a plaintiff                                                               
who  files for  an injunction  against a  project and  ultimately                                                               
loses in  court is responsible  for part of the  costs, including                                                               
court costs  and attorney fees  of the defendant.   This language                                                               
will   give   guidance  to   the   judiciary,   but  will   leave                                                               
determinations to the  discretion of the [courts].   Thus SSHB 86                                                               
makes  those   who  improperly  seek  and   cause  an  injunction                                                               
responsible  for full  court costs  and attorney  fees.   It also                                                               
adds  statutory  language  to   require  that  damages  or  costs                                                               
incurred  as a  result  of the  delay  will be  paid  for by  the                                                               
responsible party.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND listed included costs:   wages and salary for employees                                                               
working  on  the  project,  material  costs,  and  penalties  and                                                               
interest on contracts associated with  the project.  He said when                                                               
a project is  permitted before a contractor goes  to work, hiring                                                               
employees  and  purchasing  materials   are  commitments  that  a                                                               
contractor makes.   Improper delay  of a project costs  more than                                                               
just attorney fees and court costs;  it disrupts the lives of the                                                               
contractor, his or her employees,  and those other companies that                                                               
have subcontracted to do the work.   Mr. Pound offered the belief                                                               
that it  is unreasonable for  someone to  have an effect  on that                                                               
many lives without being responsible for the true costs.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 2064                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FATE turned  attention to  page 2,  line 12,  the language                                                               
"bad  faith  litigant".     Saying  this  is  the   meat  of  the                                                               
legislation, he  asked Mr.  Pound to  define it.   He  also asked                                                               
whether  there  are problems  in  the  court system  and  whether                                                               
present codes are unclear as to what a bad faith litigant is.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND, in response, said  "bad faith litigant" precedence has                                                               
already been set by the Alaska  Court System on several cases and                                                               
occasions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2001                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA posed a situation  in which a party seeks                                                               
an  injunction but  won't substantially  prevail in  a challenge.                                                               
She asked if it  would have to be proved that it  was a bad faith                                                               
challenge.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND  responded that essentially,  that's correct.   He said                                                               
if somebody comes in  with misinformation, incorrect information,                                                               
or   exaggerated  information   and   succeeds   in  getting   an                                                               
injunction, and then  through the process it  is determined those                                                               
[allegations  are  based  on]   incorrect  information  and  [the                                                               
plaintiff] loses as a result [and  it is determined to be] a bad-                                                               
faith  suit, then  it  becomes a  case wherein  the  judge is  to                                                               
determine damages.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1938                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KERTTULA   mentioned  penalties  for   bad  faith                                                               
litigation in everything from punishment  during a case to severe                                                               
discipline  [by the  bar  association].   She said  it  is a  bit                                                               
confusing because it seemingly mixes  the bad-faith idea with the                                                               
[attorney  fees  under Rule  82  of  the  Alaska Rules  of  Civil                                                               
Procedure]  with  regard to  the  one  who doesn't  substantially                                                               
prevail.  She asked if the idea is to put the two together.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND  conveyed his understanding  that this only  applies to                                                               
the  court  process,  not  the   administrative  process,  so  it                                                               
certainly covers  that part of  it.   He relayed his  belief that                                                               
[the  bill]  gives the  courts  guidance,  rather than  directing                                                               
them.  He  said the intent is that [the  courts] look beyond just                                                               
court costs and attorney fees  when [considering] damages for bad                                                               
faith.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA  expressed concern  about mixing  the two                                                               
standards  and  adding  new  things  as well.    She  noted  that                                                               
normally someone has to prove damages  as part of a case in order                                                               
to receive  [a monetary  award for those  damages] and  that this                                                               
isn't done  as punishment; she  said it is an  odd way to  do it.                                                               
Representative  Kerttula also  expressed concern  that there  are                                                               
some  really fine  lines on  what "substantially  prevailing" is.                                                               
She explained, "You could prevail on  four out of six causes, but                                                               
that means you still haven't  substantially prevailed, and ... it                                                               
just seems to open up for some close calls there, too."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND offered his belief that  that's why the bill is written                                                               
this  way, to  give  guidance, not  direction,  to the  [courts].                                                               
Traditionally, he  said, in  the type  of suits  being discussed,                                                               
for the  most part there  has only  been a determination  [that a                                                               
losing plaintiff would]  pay part of the attorney  fees and court                                                               
costs; however, this  bill provides for full  attorney fees, full                                                               
court costs, and damages.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1748                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KERTTULA  suggested  that  the  court  costs  and                                                               
attorney fees have  been the court's decision, and  that it would                                                               
not necessarily change because of  this [bill].  She asked, "They                                                               
could seek it; they might not get it, right?"                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  POUND turned  attention to  page 2,  line 4,  paragraph (4),                                                               
which  read  in part,  "actual  litigation  cost related  to  the                                                               
disruption, including  full attorney fees  and court costs".   He                                                               
said he thought the aforementioned would be full costs and fees.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA told Mr. Pound  he may be right, but that                                                               
it could  be a problem.   She posed a situation  in which someone                                                               
win  fours out  of six  causes of  action; she  questioned having                                                               
that person [be responsible] for  full court [costs] and attorney                                                               
fees, as well as tying the court's hands that way.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1690                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FATE  specified that the  intent is to allow  discretion of                                                               
the court  to make  that determination.   He  told Representative                                                               
Kerttula  [the  situation she  posed]  brings  up an  interesting                                                               
point.  Chair Fate remarked:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     If the four  points ... that the defendant  lost out of                                                                    
     the six  were of minor  consequence, and the  other two                                                                    
     are  a  major  consequence   to  the  disruption  of  a                                                                    
     project, I  think the  court would  be obliged  to take                                                                    
     that under  consideration; that  would be  that court's                                                                    
     determination.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     And so, as  we thought this over, in trying  to make it                                                                    
     the  kind of  legislation ...  that allows  the system,                                                                    
     without any obstacles to ...  recourse to an injunctive                                                                    
     process,  which this  doesn't  stop -  to  any type  of                                                                    
     litigation,  [which] this  doesn't  stop,  which was  a                                                                    
     complaint [about]  the former version  of this HB  86 -                                                                    
     we have,  in the attempt  to make this  absolutely fair                                                                    
     [in]  the legal  procedure as  it is  today, ...  given                                                                    
     some  discretion  to  the  courts  to  determine  these                                                                    
     things.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     But we've  also given  notice legally  that there  is a                                                                    
     liability attached to ... an  injunction that was filed                                                                    
     and granted in  bad faith.  So, that  liability is what                                                                    
     people  have to  take note  of;  it's still  up to  the                                                                    
     court to determine  what that liability is.   So, we're                                                                    
     not stopping any type ... of a civil process at all.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1558                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  posed an example  in which he  sues someone                                                               
who has done such  a bad job working on his car  that he sues the                                                               
mechanic for  $10,000 and wins;  under Rule 82 currently,  he can                                                               
recover a  portion of  his attorney  fees.  He  asked if  Rule 82                                                               
would go  away [under the  bill].  He  noted that it  talks about                                                               
changing Rule 82.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  POUND   offered  his  belief  that   it  wouldn't  eliminate                                                               
[Rule 82],  but  could  possibly  be  interpreted  to  mean  that                                                               
someone would have to pay full attorney fees and court costs.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GATTO  asked if Mr.  Pound was saying  it enhances                                                               
Rule 82, then, rather than diminishing it.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND  offered his belief that  it would, but said  he didn't                                                               
think  this bill  was particularly  aimed at  that type  of civil                                                               
case.    He added  that  he  wasn't  sure  how the  courts  would                                                               
interpret that  language to cover  a case such  as Representative                                                               
Gatto had mentioned.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1464                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KERTTULA  referred  to  page  2,  paragraph  (4),                                                               
lines 4-5, and  to Rule 82.   She  surmised that this  applies on                                                               
the counts on which the person doesn't prevail.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FATE said the  intent was not to modify it,  but to make it                                                               
a higher standard and "bump it up."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA asked if it was even less under Rule 82.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
AN UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER answered, "Yes."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA  offered her understanding that  the bill                                                               
bumps up Rule  82 because there is  a fixed fee.   She said right                                                               
now  awards of  fees are  limited because  attorney fees  can get                                                               
pretty high.   Representative Kerttula suggested  this bill might                                                               
encourage some high attorney fees.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND said he wouldn't know anything about that.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1277                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF posed a situation  in which a permitted high-                                                               
risk tree-cleaning  project is stopped  [and a fire  results that                                                               
destroys a public  school].  He asked if SSHB  86 would allow for                                                               
a bad  faith public  litigant to be  held accountable  for public                                                               
property loss.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FATE  offered  his understanding  that  the  determination                                                               
would  be   made  by  the   court,  and  that   other  mitigating                                                               
circumstances would have to be  taken into consideration before a                                                               
[determination could be made].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WOLF remarked:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     When they  ... look  at high-risk management,  it's one                                                                    
     of those things that's been  ... determined that it's a                                                                    
     high risk  to public  property or  public safety.   And                                                                    
     ...  a  project needs  to  be  moved forward;  it  goes                                                                    
     through the  public process; permits  are issued.   And                                                                    
     because there's a bad faith  litigant, they go to court                                                                    
     to try to stop it anyway.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FATE  offered his  assumption that the  public would  get a                                                               
chance to  voice an  opinion before  any high-risk  projects were                                                               
permitted.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND said  that this bill is primarily aimed  at the private                                                               
sector and that  the term "person" normally  references a private                                                               
individual and not  a government [entity].  He  said in reference                                                               
to the  school's burning down  that he would think  that wouldn't                                                               
be the case.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FATE  said regardless  of whether  it's public  or private,                                                               
certain  procedures  have  to  be  [followed]  in  any  high-risk                                                               
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1084                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KERTTULA suggested the  other standard, or perhaps                                                               
the  main standard,  is that  it's a  bad faith  challenge.   She                                                               
asked  for clarification  of  the definition  or  what the  court                                                               
[would use to make a determination].                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. POUND said  he was unsure what the  court's specific language                                                               
was  for bad  faith.   He  said  he  knows it  has  been used  in                                                               
precedent before.   He indicated  he would research  those cases,                                                               
but hadn't done so yet.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1039                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  FATE indicated  [the  courts] have  dealt  with bad  faith                                                               
cases previously  and would have  a better understanding  of what                                                               
constitutes bad faith.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MASEK  suggested that  many of  the aforementioned                                                               
concerns could  be addressed in  the next committee  of referral,                                                               
the House Judiciary Standing Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0973                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MASEK  moved to  report SSHB  86 out  of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  fiscal                                                               
notes.  There  being no objection, SSHB 86 was  reported from the                                                               
House Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

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